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во что-то люди верят, покуда это хорошо вписывается в их картину мира. это удобно и хочется чтобы учёные это как-то подтвердили. но наука не всегда подтверждает то, во что хочется верить. иногда совсем наоборот.
и вот тут на сцену выходит невежество.
не хотим мол верить этим учёным кричат люди которые пользуются мобильными телефонами, летают на самолётах и вообще живут не как омиши.
одни не верят про климат, про наркотики и про аборты, другие не верят про биологию, статистику и химию.

где люди которые во всем верят учёным? есть ли плохие примеры связанные с такими людьми?

Date: 2017-12-19 05:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elarbee.livejournal.com
I consider myself to be a firm believer in science, insofar that I'm able to reflect. I also change my views as science has new or amended findings.

Date: 2017-12-21 19:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedimka.livejournal.com
это хорошо.
мне вот тоже так про себя кажется. как на самом деле я не уверен, но готов быть открытым к такому точно.

Date: 2017-12-22 07:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elarbee.livejournal.com
Sounds similar to the difference between atheists and agnostics.

Date: 2017-12-22 20:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedimka.livejournal.com
Maybe,
I just hate both of those terms, I think it's such a complex concepts and when people even talk about themselves only few know most of the nuances

Date: 2017-12-24 22:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elarbee.livejournal.com
That's true, but I'm OK with at least some self-identifying. I actually discussed this concept at a party last night, where several people identified themselves as anti-religion, secular and others. But we all seemed to have thought enough about our position to come to it conscientiously.

Date: 2017-12-24 23:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedimka.livejournal.com
Oh, I have a pretty clear idea how I want to self-identify regarding "faith in god" topic — I am a pantheist.
to elaborate:
I think god is a virtual entity, a meme created by people often meaning different things to different folks, religion is a type of human organization, pretty effective btw, but at the current stage of society evolution is to often harmful (yet the lack of communal culture from non believers is troublesome too), and as to what is god — the laws of physics is, and we just do not know who created that, probably due to limited mental capacity.
Edited Date: 2017-12-24 23:08 (UTC)

Date: 2017-12-24 23:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elarbee.livejournal.com
I believe in pretty much all the same stuff, but I can call myself something different. This is why I like self-identification so much.

Date: 2017-12-24 23:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedimka.livejournal.com
sure, just a compact term sometimes is useful and it works way better for me than atheists and agnostics

Date: 2017-12-24 23:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elarbee.livejournal.com
Life can not be that compact! Alas, I wonder how much more advanced and successful we'd be as a species if we just quit arguing over the whole god thing.

Date: 2017-12-25 07:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thedimka.livejournal.com
It looks like this "god thing" was and maybe is evolutionary advantageous.
We just need to learn how to use the phenomena more efficently

Sapiens and Homo Deus (https://thedimka.livejournal.com/495824.html) both talk a lot about it.

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